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Brakes grind or scrape

Do not rideAlso called: metal on metal brakes, scraping noise when braking, brake pads gone

Brake pad worn unevenly
Brake pad worn unevenly
Drum brake backing plate with shoes and springs
Drum brake backing plate with shoes and springs
Drum brake diagram naming brake arm, panel and cam
Drum brake diagram naming brake arm, panel and cam
Front wheel with disc brake and fork leg: check disc and pads
Front wheel with disc brake and fork leg: check disc and pads
Single leading shoe drum brake layout
Single leading shoe drum brake layout

A harsh grinding or scraping noise when you brake, often with a rough feeling in the lever, usually means the friction material is gone and the metal backing plate is cutting into the disc or drum. It can also be a stone or grit trapped between pad and disc, or a broken pad. Every stop now damages the disc and braking is getting weaker.

Is it safe to ride?

No. Metal on metal stops poorly and can lock or break up. Push the bike to a place where you can fix it.

Quick checks first

  • Look into the caliper: can you see any friction material on both pads?
  • Look at the disc: fresh deep, bright grooves?
  • Does the noise happen with the brake off as well? Then something is rubbing all the time.
  • Drum brake: does the wear pointer go past the end of its mark?

Diagnose it step by step

1Is it a drum brake?

2Is either pad worn to the metal or below the limit (K-Light 125: 3 mm)?

3Is a pad cracked, broken or loose on its plate, or is grit stuck between pad and disc?

4After the metal touched the disc, is the disc deeply grooved or below its thickness limit?

  • Yes: replace the disc as well. New pads on a cut disc wear out fast and brake poorly. Check a brake disc.
  • No: light marks only; fit new pads and bed them in.

5Is the noise there with the brake released, and is one pad worn more than the other?

  • Yes: a sticking piston or slide keeps one pad on the disc. Go to Brake drags and the wheel does not spin freely.
  • No: check that the caliper and disc bolts are tight and the disc is not touching the caliper body. A loose or bent part is a workshop check.

What happens if you keep riding: the steel backing plate eats the disc in a few days, a cheap pad job becomes a pad and disc job, and the piston can come out of its bore and dump the fluid.

Causes, most likely first

Cause How to confirm Fix
Pads worn to metal No friction material visible Replace disc brake pads
Disc cut by metal Deep bright grooves; thin disc Check a brake disc
Grit or broken pad Stone or pad pieces seen Clean a brake caliper and free the pistons
Sticking caliper Noise with brake off; uneven wear Clean a brake caliper and free the pistons
Worn drum shoes Drum wear pointer past mark Service a drum brake

Reference values (K-Light 125)

Item Value Source
Pad service limit 3 mm (new 6.0 mm) K-Light 125 manual, PDF p. 66
Disc thickness limit, front / rear 3.0 mm / 4.0 mm K-Light 125 manual, PDF p. 109

Related problems

Sources
  • K-Light 125 manual, PDF pages 66, 109
  • MAVCC Motorcycle Mechanic, PDF page 544

Values marked K-Light 125 are for that reference bike. Use your own bike's manual for its values. Text CC BY-SA 4.0, Transitions Lab.